I am currently getting a bit annoyed by the practice of people uploading my stuff to YouTube.
I already had one guy removed for something like this a year ago, and after not reacting to my complaint, another one is propably going to face the same fate.
It may not be nice of me to shatter peoples dreams of becomming famous with other peoples achievements, but really they are pretty fragile dreams. Every time something like this happenes I see hundrets of people appraising the submitter for his great work and I get a tiny bit pissed. And every time I get pissed I get a bit closer to putting watermark logos in all of my videos. Meaning that all videos will soon have a Rayverak logo and name in some corner, and that is only going to hinder the viewing experience.

I get a tiny worry out of this too, because everytime one of my video is uploaded to such a open place it gets more attention from nay sayers. In the end it will result in one or another blog reporting about the perversion on my website.. and I am not going to like that kind of attention.

any comments/ideas/support or similar issues? drop me a line

I hate that too. Some of my flashes made it to other site. Did not check Newgrounds yet. What you can do other then the water mark it to put ether a mark or something on the models or towards the end or the beginning of the video, do what rangarig does and put the creator info, website and stuff in it. So that way its not really a watermark and you can put your copyright info in to prevent people from stealing your stuff.

Yeah, I thought about putting those infos on a kind of intro screen, but then I figured that most of my animations are rather short and maybe even looping.. that means while you watch "something" go back and forth.. that would mean you would have to see the intro screen every 2 seconds then the "something" (^vxxv^) is out again.

Yeah, I see. If it gets that bad, you can always add you watermark. I have having a battle on FA because people are harassing me.

yeah, i actualy saw that toshiba guy on youtube, and mailed him with a couiple of ideas, and complemented him on his work, would you believe that he actually replied saying how long it took him to do the work!! he totally made out it was his stuff, it was only when i was looking at his page i saw a comment from the admin guy here asking him to stop copying the short animations that i realised this site was here.
in a way it showed me this site was here, but yeah must be very annoying for the admin guy here to see someone else take all the praise for his work.
im more into male to male vore and see that you guys here are not, its a shame because the work is so dam good, perhaps you should take payment for clips that can be requested. id sure pay to see some of my fantasy's come to life! and i know that a lot of the guys on the voreplay site would too.

Thanks sumburgh, at some point I may start to accept commissions, but first I need to learn to finish requests in a timely fashion. Currently things are just taking too long for serious commissions to work out.
I can't believe the Toshiba guy actually acts like it was his work, the last guy at least answered that he didn't know it belonged to someone else because he downloaded it on e-mule.

Hmm... I don't know if this is 'doable' or not (I'm not a site designer) but there are some sites where you can't actually click your right-click in the mouse and it pops up an error/warning box. Wouldn't that solve the problem? Or do people copy flash work with some kind of addon or something?

Solve what problem exactly?

I am assuming that what they are trying to say is that if you disable the ability to download your animations in a file form and therefore they cant then put them on youtube as apposed to people just being not being assholes and posting them on video sharing sites.

Heh well yeah, thats about exactly the opposite of my argumentation.
What I am saying is that I allow everyone to download my stuff for free, so they won't need to upload it in other locations because all they need is to point others to the URL. Of course these people just want to feel the creators joy of sharing without actually creating and that sucks. But thats no reason to punish the entire community by preventing them from downloading my videos to their computer.

See I want people to download the videos, that way they don't need internet when they want to see them. They don't have to download the same data over and over again and so they don't burden my provider.

There is always a way arround copy protection, people are making a sport out of it and creating copy protections is just making live harder for those that don't know how to bypass them.

As for Youtube and other streaming services, the data is reaching your computer no matter in what form, and there are tools that will caputure the material in that process. But there are easy ways to steal from streaming services.. http://www.keepvid.com is one of them.

And much appreciation for that....especially concidering i have.........*shudder* dial-up internet!

Sorry for the way-too-late reply, Ray; had some problems with my connection.

I think Crimson already cleared more than enough what I wanted to say (thanks bud) but after reading your last posts I know now why you want to keep your work download-able for everyone.

In that case... how about this then, I know it really won't do much help but you could put a notice that pops up whenever you click on the gallery (no, I don't mean a normal self-made notice, I mean a small pop-up window, like when you get an error or something.) People tend to ignore reading any notice, but should it be a pop-up window they seem to take extra caution. Maybe because they think something went wrong in the PC.

I know it won't really stop people from 'stealing' your work completely... But that's about the best thing I could come up with.

Wish you the best~

if it wasnt for the videos on Youtube i wouldnt have found this cite. when i saw one of ur animations i commented the guy for a great work.. but, then i say Rayverak in the corner. so i googled it and found this cite. im not saying that youtube posting ur videos is good. so im going to find al the vids posted and let them know....

Ok so far i found this guy on youtube that had about 7 of ur vids posted. and in each i rated 1 star out of 5 and posted this comment..
Remove this video. it doesnt belong to you and the owner doesnt want people uploading them and taking full credit.
If u want to send him ur own message heres the link.
http://www.youtube.com/user/braxe

Thanks for the info, but you don't need to look for things like this.. at some point I feel better if I just don't know about it.
This is weird though.. this guy uploads these vids but doesn't even bother to write any names or details for it.
It is as if he was in a hurry to show them to someone. Other people would just like to my files..
And then there is the fact that there are practically no comments besides yours.. I have never seen that in a youtube submission (^vxxv^)

I could write another complaint to YouTube.. but this whole copyright complaint business is a bit tedious.
And at least he uploaded the Raptor Couch Vore animation.. where it clearly says Rayverak in the corner. hehe

It's truly sad to see how much art gets stolen on the internet. On the one hand, the internet makes it easy for people to share their work, but on the other, it makes it too easy for others to misuse it. Such is the cost of sharing work, I suppose. Release your work to the world, and you throw it to masses of vultures who will steal, copy, mutilate, and feast on it. Too often art is plagiarized, misattributed, and altered (and if you're really unlucky Rule 34 comes into play, except in cases like this where sexual themes were intended).

Some people are really doing the wrong things with their lives.

But then again, the only alternative would be to simply not share it, which would defeat the purpose of making it altogether. What would the point of drawing out a scene be if you couldn't share the results of your work? Some people might not mind - but I wouldn't go to the trouble of writing or drawing something out just to see the finish. As much fun as the pride (or "pleasure") that seeing a finished piece gives is, there's more fun to be had from the pride gained from other people liking one's work (assuming people like it, of course. People can be hawks as well as vultures).

So basically, everyone who publishes art takes a risk. Human nature isn't changing anytime soon, and on the internet people do what they want. And some things they don't want. But that's something else entirely. Anonymity on the internet has its downsides....

And yes, I did just bump a 5 month old topic. I gotta post in something, after all.

Art should be done for fun, not for the praise of others; inspiration can come in a lot of forms and the public is bad inspiration since they are crazy and will crush you for the smallest thing. Your friends are good inspiration. Blackrain does art for fun; he does it for a few other reasons too but mostly for fun. If you play a game for the score you miss out on the fun of the game. Do it for yourself above all and if you want to share, keep in mind; if you're average people won't take notice, if you're good at it you're going to draw attention good and bad. If you don't want to deal with notoriety, the only way to do that is to become a lot less public and interactive. Hide behind an identity, don't let anything past that, keep it anonymous, no forum/website, post up what you will for select people or run a forum/website that's more or less invite only.

Art can't really be stolen; unless it has a physical manifestation. One of the prices you pay for technology is infinite reproducibility and participating on the internet in that way will always have a cost. People repost things, scavenge forgotten art from the bottom of the bin via sites like waybackmachine; they build personal collections and share. You do it, so does everyone else.

On the youtube problem, You can remove transparent watermarks, solid ones are more difficult but it can still be done. It's a bit sneakier to add a watermark to the first, last, or some frame in between and let the dude get discovered. Probably the most effective way to handle it is to do it israeli style; get a mob of people 20 or 30 people to flag the video's as obscene or something and they get taken down automatically. I'm sure the people on aryions forum would help; heck, you could bother eka to create a separate sub forum for this purpose since I know it is more common than it aught to be. DA does a similar thing, too.

But, in all honesty the BEST way to stop this behaivour is to troll the guy. Shut down the site for "construction", Sign up under another name and begin posting old art under that along with a few doodads they've never seen before. E.G. their name is "Damonkee" you post under the name "Dagayape"; copy the video names and tags closly and just dick with the guy/piss them off royally you're copycatting them, etc. Post up on youtube "hay guys, isn't this fucking the gayest shit ever? I worked hard to poop this out for some sicko on commish, it was a posh pay job but jesus is it fucked up. Srsly" etc etc. Make fun of your own art to piss the guy off who's stealing it won't necessarily net you more popularity, but it will cause the jack off who's claiming something that they didn't create as theirs to go nuclear. After all, you can just delete their comments; they have no recourse. At some point during the sharade put up the site "hey guys my site is up it's co cool" etc etc. They have a severe ego problem that you are not stroking the wrong way. They will get super pissed off and blow up. You can even integrate the guy into the animation and piss them off further, then take the whole shebang down and go private again.

You can also get some friends together to troll the guy. E.G. post up on the you tube page in reply "this is the worst thing EVER" etc etc.

GL:HF Your art is a bit off beat but hey the animations are very good. The world takes all kinds. : - )

So.. instead of filling out a copyright infringement claim with Youtube with about half an hour work.. I should dedicate 20 or more people to spend their day trolling the shit out of a troll?

Trolling the person back doesn't sound anything like a wise plan. It's just stooping down to their level and in the end, it could just backfire with trolls themselves having the last laugh.